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one is i have come slowly but fiscal cliff, because i think it will actually drive government toward thinking in transformative ways, which really needs to be done. we have wrung all the inefficiencies about government by -- a certain school of management. we need to recognize that it is not going to come from or be driven from the federal level. citizens have more interaction with local government and state federal government. with the federal government are extremely limited. so i think we need to turn some of these things around and focus more on high-value applications. force did a wonderful job -- what do citizens want from the government? where would they want to see applications made available to them? citizens -- to the extent they're satisfied with government at all, they are satisfied more with their e- there are things that we can build on, the trust been one of -- is one of the most critical issues. >> yes, one of the things citizens want is speed. i ordered something the other day online and was at my house in two days. compare that with a federal agency where i was requ
one is i have come slowly but fiscal cliff, because i think it will actually drive government toward thinking in transformative ways, which really needs to be done. we have wrung all the inefficiencies about government by -- a certain school of management. we need to recognize that it is not going to come from or be driven from the federal level. citizens have more interaction with local government and state federal government. with the federal government are extremely limited. so i think we...
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cliff and what it is going to take to get a deal done. our gop and democratic strategists are standing by to dive into that debate. >> and christmas is over, but the deals are still out there. you'll find out what is expected to drop in price as we head into the new year. >>> this is fox 5 news at 10:00. >>> back to our top story, we are just three days way from reaching the fiscal cliff -- away from reaching the fiscal cliff. this afternoon president obama held talks with congressional leaders at the white house. the president says he is hopeful a deal can be reached in order to avoid automatic tax increases and spending cuts come january 1st. senator harry reid and mitch mcconnell are trying to hammer out a deal the house might approve, but the house is ticking. joining us now are our political strategists. brendan, the president today said is he going to have senator mcconnell, senator reid start off on this package, but doesn't that eliminate a big player in this, which is john boehner, if this has to get passed through the house? >>
cliff and what it is going to take to get a deal done. our gop and democratic strategists are standing by to dive into that debate. >> and christmas is over, but the deals are still out there. you'll find out what is expected to drop in price as we head into the new year. >>> this is fox 5 news at 10:00. >>> back to our top story, we are just three days way from reaching the fiscal cliff -- away from reaching the fiscal cliff. this afternoon president obama held talks...
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cliff cliff thing done. no word yet on when people get extra lattes, where they can write get your lazy ass off vacation. >> willis likes that a lot more. >> i womdzer if there's enough room. >> if you're looking for love, you better have a good credit score. take a look at this. ♪ >> okay, yeah. we're not going to say we're going after those guys, but it's the credit score guys. "the new york times" is reporting that credit scores is huge and that could be at the top of the list. they interviewed people across the u.s., and a newspaper discovered a low credit score is a deal breaker in search of love. so if you don't have your act together, take care of that and maybe you'll find love. >> can you imagine, hi, how are you? what is your credit score? >> 420. no, mine is a lot higher. >> we want to show you this next footage. anyone who has ever had their parking lot stolen is going to love this. this is in russia. we don't know why this is being towed. i've got to get me one of these, because i would just l
cliff cliff thing done. no word yet on when people get extra lattes, where they can write get your lazy ass off vacation. >> willis likes that a lot more. >> i womdzer if there's enough room. >> if you're looking for love, you better have a good credit score. take a look at this. ♪ >> okay, yeah. we're not going to say we're going after those guys, but it's the credit score guys. "the new york times" is reporting that credit scores is huge and that could be...
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president obama is stepping up public pressure on republicans to got a fiscal cliff deal done. he'll appear on "meet the press" sunday as senate convenes to work on a possible deal with a possible vote monday. >>> an airliner off the runway at airport in russia, there were eight crew members aboard and no passengers. there was light snow at the time of the crash. >>> more news later. back to "lockup." >>> due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. >>> during our stay at the penitentiary of new mexico, our producer conducted an interview with a serial rapist, who would soon be completing his prison term and returning to society. the inmate agreed to the interview on the condition of anonymity. what he had to say is disturbing, but provides a rare insight into the mind of a serial rapist. >> after performing the rapes, the physical rapes, i would literally scare these women to death. what i would do is go into a victim's purse, i would find address books, i would take their driver's license out of their purse. and i would say, okay, now i know where you live. i k
president obama is stepping up public pressure on republicans to got a fiscal cliff deal done. he'll appear on "meet the press" sunday as senate convenes to work on a possible deal with a possible vote monday. >>> an airliner off the runway at airport in russia, there were eight crew members aboard and no passengers. there was light snow at the time of the crash. >>> more news later. back to "lockup." >>> due to mature subject matter, viewer...
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. >> appears that a deal is in sight on the fiscal cliff. a deal is not done yet. we may have to solve this problem in several stocks. including a tax credit for families with children the education tax credit. >> he said he would have liked to have gotten a bigger deal done but unfortunately he was not able to do that. this will have to be ruled out in several steps. checking chicagos letter which is kind of great as the final day of 2012. snow passing downstate as you can see on the radar. if you're heading south be aware of that. we may get a flurry but a lot of this hanging up in the clouds over the city. it will be moving out of here tonight. we get into some serious cold there. this low pressure a streaking along fast. high pressure comes in and brings the sun back tomorrow. look at the temperatures and how cold it is out west of us. we've got 310 days without a subfreezing reading. the hundred and 10 days310 days is just not happened before. tomorrow it happens, we go into subfreezing daytime high territory. we bring to an end, a record. live records going b
. >> appears that a deal is in sight on the fiscal cliff. a deal is not done yet. we may have to solve this problem in several stocks. including a tax credit for families with children the education tax credit. >> he said he would have liked to have gotten a bigger deal done but unfortunately he was not able to do that. this will have to be ruled out in several steps. checking chicagos letter which is kind of great as the final day of 2012. snow passing downstate as you can see on...
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messer, to bring it back to the current fiscal cliff talks -- during the campaign, you said that raising taxes is not a good way to help the u.s. economy. do you have an across the board opposition to raising taxes? >> i do believe that the worst thing to do any weak economy is to try to raise taxes. it is like pouring gasoline on fire. it is important to remember as a look at this debate, if the president gets all of his tax increases he is asking for, it $80 billion to the government. that is enough money to run the government for eight to 16 days. it will raise our deficit to somewhere around $1 trillion. i think we have to get aggressive about spending. we're going to have to look added title months if we're going to start to solve these problems. -- entitlements if we're going to start to solve these problems. i think the approach he has taken is one that is setting this process up for failure. the proof is the results of negotiations we have seen over the last couple weeks. >> would you have voted for plan b? >> as someone who has been out here in indiana, i do not know all the det
messer, to bring it back to the current fiscal cliff talks -- during the campaign, you said that raising taxes is not a good way to help the u.s. economy. do you have an across the board opposition to raising taxes? >> i do believe that the worst thing to do any weak economy is to try to raise taxes. it is like pouring gasoline on fire. it is important to remember as a look at this debate, if the president gets all of his tax increases he is asking for, it $80 billion to the government....
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mike tyson. >> president owe pa ma returns to washington today with five days to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> all eyes will be on the senate after house republicans said it's up to senate leadership to reach a deal. >>> starbucks is urging action asking baristas in his washington, d.c., cafes to write the word "come together" on the cups. >> a new york newspaper facing backlash after it published the names and addresses of local gun owners. >>> a busy shanghai shopping center a shark tank exploded. >>> the windy city of chicago will sport america's most expensive parking meters. >> what do you think about that? >> too much. >> all that -- >> smith catches, shoots puts it up, puts it in at the buzzer! j.r. smith with another game winner! >>> what is your favorite app? >> scrabble. >> sometimes i want to yank that out of your hands. >> and all that matters. >> an endangered thin backed whale watched up on the breezy point section of queens. >> on "cbs this morning." >> i know he's smiling but that medal hanging around his neck there's a 40% chance he'll hang himself with it. captioning fund
mike tyson. >> president owe pa ma returns to washington today with five days to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> all eyes will be on the senate after house republicans said it's up to senate leadership to reach a deal. >>> starbucks is urging action asking baristas in his washington, d.c., cafes to write the word "come together" on the cups. >> a new york newspaper facing backlash after it published the names and addresses of local gun owners. >>> a busy...
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. >>> some washington lawmakers sound gloomy about the chances for a compromise deal on the fiscal cliff. >> nine days remain to get the deal done. house speaker boehner is in ohio. president obama in hawaii. >>> today we say aloha to an american hero, the late senator daniel inouye was remembered with full military honors in hawaii. the 88-year-old senator lost his arm in world war ii, he represented hawaii in washington for more than 50 years. president obama and the first lady attended today's service. the president has said inouye was his earliest political inspiration. >>> many gun shop owners say sales have been booming recently. some link that to concerns the president may impose new restrictions on firearms. thousands of north texans visited local gun shows and stores this weekend where the most powerful weapons are costing more than ever. a gun dealer told our affiliate wfaa that an assault-sometime weapon like an ar-15 a week ago ran around $900. this week anywhere from diagnosis 1,500 to $2,500. in just a few minutes my conversation with a gun shop owner, several former police
. >>> some washington lawmakers sound gloomy about the chances for a compromise deal on the fiscal cliff. >> nine days remain to get the deal done. house speaker boehner is in ohio. president obama in hawaii. >>> today we say aloha to an american hero, the late senator daniel inouye was remembered with full military honors in hawaii. the 88-year-old senator lost his arm in world war ii, he represented hawaii in washington for more than 50 years. president obama and the...
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on the fiscal cliff? from washington to all around the country americans are fed up. >> this whole thing is a national embarrassment, an embarrassment to the president, an embarrassment to both sides of the aisle and both the house and the senate. >> the election is over. you got your seats. you're re-elected. congratulations. you have a job. now work and do it. >> fiscally irresponsible decision trying to please everyone and you please no one at all. >> they've got to work together. >> they appear to be very self-centered. >> joining me now retired admiral and former democratic congressman joe sestak of pennsylvania and msnbc contributor and former bush/cheney senior adviser robert trainum. kelly o'donnell has just reported some of the latest information. we heard there was progress overnight and we understand vice president biden and republican leader mitch mcconnell exchanged phone calls until about midnight and their aides then continued to work and we've been reporting the various areas of progress i
on the fiscal cliff? from washington to all around the country americans are fed up. >> this whole thing is a national embarrassment, an embarrassment to the president, an embarrassment to both sides of the aisle and both the house and the senate. >> the election is over. you got your seats. you're re-elected. congratulations. you have a job. now work and do it. >> fiscally irresponsible decision trying to please everyone and you please no one at all. >> they've got to...
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. >>> president obama heading back to washington to tackle the fiscal cliff today. he will get to d.c. just as the house and senate expected to reconvene tomorrow. not much time left for a notoriously slow-moving washington to get something done. brianna keilar following the drama from honolulu, hawaii. she's there with the president. what is the latest. >> president obama is officially cutting short his christmas vacation and heading back from hawaii. tonight, hawaiian time, early in the morning on the east coast and returning to the d.c. area on thursday. as the senate is set to reconvene and all eyes really are looking there to see what senate majority leader harry reid can cobble together in order to get republican support to avoid the fiscal cliff. he'll also have to put together something that will get republican support in the house. this is a last-ditch effort and will be obviously very difficult if it succeeds at all. at this point, the white house still wants that threshold for income tax rates to be at 250,000. it's unclear, exactly what the senate propos
. >>> president obama heading back to washington to tackle the fiscal cliff today. he will get to d.c. just as the house and senate expected to reconvene tomorrow. not much time left for a notoriously slow-moving washington to get something done. brianna keilar following the drama from honolulu, hawaii. she's there with the president. what is the latest. >> president obama is officially cutting short his christmas vacation and heading back from hawaii. tonight, hawaiian time,...
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the fiscal cliff. -- senator barbara boxer. >> we can sit here and watch what is happening. we know that there are negotiations going on to avert at least part of the fiscal cliff. i want to say, and i have said this privately and publicly that i really hope our leaders can find a way out of this. i watched the president's speech today and i thought, as usual, he was very fair in what he said. what he basically said it is it is the middle class who grows this economy, the middle class needs to be lifted up, the middle class to cannot afford the tax hikes down those at the very top can give just a little bit more. it is a very simple point. i just would hope, given that everyone says it is not about class, and i know they say that every day on the other side of the aisle. finding this compromise will not be inclusive but will come to pass. . you you know, i have been here for a while. my understanding is we have not met between -- christmas and new years since 1962. it takes something of major proportio
the fiscal cliff. -- senator barbara boxer. >> we can sit here and watch what is happening. we know that there are negotiations going on to avert at least part of the fiscal cliff. i want to say, and i have said this privately and publicly that i really hope our leaders can find a way out of this. i watched the president's speech today and i thought, as usual, he was very fair in what he said. what he basically said it is it is the middle class who grows this economy, the middle class...
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that work has to be done. but at least we will have avoided the cliff. mr. president, by a twist of fate, the occupant of the chair is my colleague and friend, the senator from connecticut, so like -- you've probably seen these numbers, but just to bring it home in one state, what will be the impact if we go over -- if we allow the country to go over the fiscal cliff. in connecticut, 1.4 million middle-class families will see their federal income taxes increase. almost a million and a half families. if the middle-class tax cuts are allowed to expire on january 1, a median-income connecticut family -- now, i know this -- the median in connecticut is higher than it is in most other states, but this number's true for any family making this amount of money, it makes an important point. a family of four earning $86,000 a year happens to be the immediatmedianfamily income in , but that family, which i think would be considered median just about everywhere, middle income just about everywhere, would see its federal income taxes rise by $2,200. that's a lot of money
that work has to be done. but at least we will have avoided the cliff. mr. president, by a twist of fate, the occupant of the chair is my colleague and friend, the senator from connecticut, so like -- you've probably seen these numbers, but just to bring it home in one state, what will be the impact if we go over -- if we allow the country to go over the fiscal cliff. in connecticut, 1.4 million middle-class families will see their federal income taxes increase. almost a million and a half...
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. >>> this morning we have technically gone over the fiscal cliff, however, the senate has reach add deal to avoid some of the tax hikes and the automatic spending cuts. >> we're far from having a done deal. if the senate passes on the compromise, it will move to the house where it will likely face more opposition. tara mergener reports from capitol hill. >> reporter: in the early morning hours of new year's day, the senate began voting on a bill to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. >> the bill as amended is passed. >> reporter: the senate voted 89-8 to avoid tax hikes for 99% of all americans. >> this shouldn't be the model for how we do things around here but i think we can say we've done some good for the country. >> reporter: if the bill eventually becomes law, the bush era tax cuts will be permanently extended for everyone making less than $400,000 a year. and families making less than $450,000 a year. it will also keep the alternative minimum tax for the wealthy from hitting millions of middle-class families. >> middle-class families will wake up today to the assurances that th
. >>> this morning we have technically gone over the fiscal cliff, however, the senate has reach add deal to avoid some of the tax hikes and the automatic spending cuts. >> we're far from having a done deal. if the senate passes on the compromise, it will move to the house where it will likely face more opposition. tara mergener reports from capitol hill. >> reporter: in the early morning hours of new year's day, the senate began voting on a bill to avoid the so-called...
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cliff which will kick in in six days if nothing isone done. those are the headlines are we talking about is cutting his vacation short in tha and that l well and good. is there anything that can be done because they really seem to be at an impasse before christmms, the republicans in the houseors, imploded and a ve, very tight spot and i suspect if there is to be a deal it'll be a pretty on powering one for all involved. eric: john boehner, putting it up on the screen. $800 billion in tax revenue on the table, allegedly the table, allegedly said you get nothing for free. >> there were a couple of eye-opening quotes. went through the timeline of how went through the timeline of how boehner and the president and that was an big one. boehner print revenues on the table andd the president saying that is what i get out of the gate, you get nothing for that, kind of a bit of a surprise. he also said if we go over the t cliff that threat and boehner, i will use my inaugural address to blame you for tax increases and for the fiscal cliff going o overb
cliff which will kick in in six days if nothing isone done. those are the headlines are we talking about is cutting his vacation short in tha and that l well and good. is there anything that can be done because they really seem to be at an impasse before christmms, the republicans in the houseors, imploded and a ve, very tight spot and i suspect if there is to be a deal it'll be a pretty on powering one for all involved. eric: john boehner, putting it up on the screen. $800 billion in tax...
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cliff. what did we do? electioneering. it was all about waiting until the election is over. when the elections become more important than governing the country, you get into the trouble we are in. it is not just wild spending. it is not just tax loopholes. it is about governing and fiscally managing things as you go along. it does not just have to be in the white house. it has got to be in congress as well. >> given the frustrations you have voice, if a grandchild said they want to go into politics, would you rejoice? >> i would be straightforward with them. when i decided i wanted to run for governor, somebody asked me if my skin was thick enough. i said, sure. i would encourage them to do it. there are bumps in the road and historical changes we have all seen and they will continue to happen. i predict longer-term there will be more independent-minded people who want to work together to get things accomplished. the bipartisan word will ultimately have more application. i was amused harry r
cliff. what did we do? electioneering. it was all about waiting until the election is over. when the elections become more important than governing the country, you get into the trouble we are in. it is not just wild spending. it is not just tax loopholes. it is about governing and fiscally managing things as you go along. it does not just have to be in the white house. it has got to be in congress as well. >> given the frustrations you have voice, if a grandchild said they want to go...
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. >> we're going to end up with a small, kick-the-can, down-the- road bill to make another fiscal cliff to deal with this fiscal cliff. >> reporter: with expectation low, lawmakers are talk about how to retroactively fix any damage done by going over the cliff with congress. nicole collins, fox news. >>> developing tonight, a strike that could have shut down ports up and down the east coast is averted for now. the long shoreman's union along the east coast and gulf of mexico will extend the current contract for 30 days. that extension prevents a possible strike that could have crippled operations at port and including the port of baltimore. in a statement today, the maryland governor martin o'malley wrote, quote, the port of baltimore continues to be a major part of the state economic strait generating and supporting thousands of jobs. during the extended period, we hope long-term resolutions can be reached for the hardworking families who depend on jobs and commerce linked to the port of baltimore. >>> to the state of the skins. it's the hottest ticket in town. the redskins play host s
. >> we're going to end up with a small, kick-the-can, down-the- road bill to make another fiscal cliff to deal with this fiscal cliff. >> reporter: with expectation low, lawmakers are talk about how to retroactively fix any damage done by going over the cliff with congress. nicole collins, fox news. >>> developing tonight, a strike that could have shut down ports up and down the east coast is averted for now. the long shoreman's union along the east coast and gulf of...
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. >>> and six days and counting until we hit the fiscal cliff. the president is cutting short his hawaiian vacation to go back to work. we'll look at whether a deal is likely to get done. >>> and not what people in alabama wanted for christmas. tornadoes ripped through the south. >> i prayed to god as loud as i could and i was just praying for my safety. and i knew that -- i prayed that the church stayed put. rsal] ♪ everybody well don't you know it's me now? ♪ ♪ yeah who's it, who's it huh? ♪ ♪ willy's back with a brand new beat now, ♪ ♪ yeah doin' it doin' it up! ♪ heyyy yeah, tryin' to bite my style! ♪ ♪ heyyy yeah, how you like me now? ♪ ♪ na na na na na na na na ♪ and everybody go uh! >>> we told you last hour president obama is spending his last few hours in hawaii before returng early to washington. he's expected to arrive tomorrow, just five days ahead of the fiscal cliff, which includes an across the board tax hike that congress has tried but failed to undo. cnn's dana bash is with us from washington, our senior
. >>> and six days and counting until we hit the fiscal cliff. the president is cutting short his hawaiian vacation to go back to work. we'll look at whether a deal is likely to get done. >>> and not what people in alabama wanted for christmas. tornadoes ripped through the south. >> i prayed to god as loud as i could and i was just praying for my safety. and i knew that -- i prayed that the church stayed put. rsal] ♪ everybody well don't you know it's me now? ♪ ♪...
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>> they're looking for a deal to be done that averts the worst effects of the fiscal cliff. always remembering that there will be some form of spending cuts and tax rises in the united states. but nothing like the grinding austerity that would be imposed on the u.s., and by definition and extension, the rest of the world, if the u.s. goes over the cliff. put it in context. this year the eurozone is in recession. next year recessions likely, growth just about possible. in that scenario for the largest trading partner to have a fiscal retrencherant, a slowdown of the magnitude of the cliff, ali, is pretty dramatic and drastic for everybody else watching. >> richard, there's a chance there could be a boomerang effect. the united states may grow, let's say 3% for argument's sake in 2013. that is going to be healthier than europe by a long shot, and we're seeing slowing in a lot of other major economies, including china, india, brazil. is there some sense that, just like the u.s. set off all of this nonsense back in 2008, a u.s. retrenchment, as you call it, a slowdown in growth
>> they're looking for a deal to be done that averts the worst effects of the fiscal cliff. always remembering that there will be some form of spending cuts and tax rises in the united states. but nothing like the grinding austerity that would be imposed on the u.s., and by definition and extension, the rest of the world, if the u.s. goes over the cliff. put it in context. this year the eurozone is in recession. next year recessions likely, growth just about possible. in that scenario for...
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by going over the fiscal cliff? >> i think one of the things to look at here is that, and you have to look at the back side, is that retailers in respect of inventories, are in the best position possible. also an anniversary of cheaper cotton prices here. revenue i don't think the big story for this segment in 2013. if they can hold on and if the fiscal cliff is really bad and can't hold on, it won't be as negative as other periods. the simple fact that retailers are in much better shape in terms of cost and than they've been in years. if the fiscal cliff is fixed, then have a very strong first half and back half of next year. if it doesn't, we will have a situation that we see at christmas where low sales will not translate to mixed earnings. they will see a lot of margin improvements and upside from there. >> all right. we will leave it there. thank you. i appreciate your time. have a great holiday. >> thank you. >>> up next, hollywood is eyeing what could be the best for the box office ever. pushing towards the f
by going over the fiscal cliff? >> i think one of the things to look at here is that, and you have to look at the back side, is that retailers in respect of inventories, are in the best position possible. also an anniversary of cheaper cotton prices here. revenue i don't think the big story for this segment in 2013. if they can hold on and if the fiscal cliff is really bad and can't hold on, it won't be as negative as other periods. the simple fact that retailers are in much better shape...
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the fiscal cliff. with no plan and no apparent hope. but here we are ande have got to do something. if we're as determined to go over the cliff as we seem, we've got to do something to soften theanding because at the bottom of the fiscal cliff, our our -- are immediate and massive tax increases, deep and indiscriminate spending cuts and the risk of another recession. so as we come down on the final hours, we have two choices -- to do nothing and cause an unbelievable amount of hardship for our fellow americans or to do something to reduce the suffering inflicted on our citizens by an inflexible political system. mr. president, i choose to do mething, so today i'm introducing the calm act which stands for the cliff alleviation at the last minute act. the calm act will do three important things. it will soften the financial blow of the fiscal cliff. it will calm our financial markets. it gives us the certainty of a plan now but allows us if we ever find the courage to pursue the fiscal grand barga that h
the fiscal cliff. with no plan and no apparent hope. but here we are ande have got to do something. if we're as determined to go over the cliff as we seem, we've got to do something to soften theanding because at the bottom of the fiscal cliff, our our -- are immediate and massive tax increases, deep and indiscriminate spending cuts and the risk of another recession. so as we come down on the final hours, we have two choices -- to do nothing and cause an unbelievable amount of hardship for our...
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as we look to the white house, we sure hope that they are getting something done, the fiscal cliff meeting at the white house right now. what were the mechanics of rushing the deal through congress and getting it passed into law? what would that look like in four days? lisa desjardins joins us now. what will it look like? >> well, there is a couple of possibilities, don. one is that they take sort of the remnants of one of the bills that passed the house or the senate and they just change it. they add whatever is in this deal to it. they have a whole bunch of vehicles that are possible for that. one sticking point, because this deal would most likely deal with taxes, there is a rule in the constitution that is has been interpreted by most every side to determine it has to begin in the house, revenue measures begin in the house. they need a bill that starts in the house, okay, they have a lot to do that. then the trick is making sure they have the votes. i think if we see anything come out of tonight's meeting, anything substantial, that's what is going to happen this next day and a half. l
as we look to the white house, we sure hope that they are getting something done, the fiscal cliff meeting at the white house right now. what were the mechanics of rushing the deal through congress and getting it passed into law? what would that look like in four days? lisa desjardins joins us now. what will it look like? >> well, there is a couple of possibilities, don. one is that they take sort of the remnants of one of the bills that passed the house or the senate and they just change...
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if this fiscal cliff thing is done, i'm going to sleep. however, if it isn't dealt with, your taxes are going to go up. your grocery bill might go up too. the deal that could affect milk prices, next. and a new year's message from washington from one of our viewers. >> my new year's message to washington is this. there are not wealthy enough and corporations to keep you in office. in this light, grow up, govern, and most importantly. support middle class policies. am i on this one? no, no, no, no, no. i am on this one. [ male announcer ] for every 2 pounds you lose through diet and exercise alli can help you lose one more by blocking some of the fat you eat. simple. effective. belt-friendly. let's fight fat with alli. learn more, lose more at letsfightfat.com. learn more, lose more are you flo? yes. is this the thing you gave my husband? well, yeah, yes. the "name your price" tool. you tell us the price you want to pay, and we give you a range of options to choose from. careful, though -- that kind of power can go to your head. that explai
if this fiscal cliff thing is done, i'm going to sleep. however, if it isn't dealt with, your taxes are going to go up. your grocery bill might go up too. the deal that could affect milk prices, next. and a new year's message from washington from one of our viewers. >> my new year's message to washington is this. there are not wealthy enough and corporations to keep you in office. in this light, grow up, govern, and most importantly. support middle class policies. am i on this one? no,...
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to come together and get this fiscal cliff thing done. no word yet on when people get extra lattes, if there is's enough space to write "get your lazy ass off vacation and get this done." [ laughter ] >> willis likes that a lot more. i can hear it in the background. >> i wonder if there's enough room. >> no, i don't know about that. >>> okay, ladies and gents, if you're looking for love, oh, boy, you better have a good credit score. take a look at this. ♪ so hot right now that our designer sun glasses be fogging ♪ >> okay, yeah. we're not going to say we're going after those guys, but it's the credit score guys. "the new york times" is reporting that credit scores are huge and that could be at the top of the list. maybe after looks and personality is credit scores. they interviewed people across the u.s., all under the age of 40, and the newspaper discovered that a low credit score is a deal-breaker when in search of love right now in the economy. so if you don't have your act together, take care of that and maybe you'll find love. >>
to come together and get this fiscal cliff thing done. no word yet on when people get extra lattes, if there is's enough space to write "get your lazy ass off vacation and get this done." [ laughter ] >> willis likes that a lot more. i can hear it in the background. >> i wonder if there's enough room. >> no, i don't know about that. >>> okay, ladies and gents, if you're looking for love, oh, boy, you better have a good credit score. take a look at this. ♪...
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cliff which will kick in in about six days if nothing'ss done. those are the headlines. everyone talking about cutting his vacation short. the question is there anything that can be done? they were at an impasse before christmas, the republicans and house imploded and it's a tight spot. i suspect if there's a deal,t will be unpalatable for everyone. >> there was a interchange before the talks broke wn. we have the quotes. john boehner said to obama, quote, iut $800 billio i tax revenue on the table. what do i get for that? allegedly we understand president obama came back to him and said, you get nothing. i get that for free. you get nothing. >> there were a couple eye-opening quotes. a "wall reet journal" story before christmas that went through the timeline of how this happened between painer and the president -- boehner and the president. boehner put the rough knee on the table and the president saying that's what i get out of the gate. you get nothing for that, which was a surprise to the speaker. he said if we go over the cliff, that the pre
cliff which will kick in in about six days if nothing'ss done. those are the headlines. everyone talking about cutting his vacation short. the question is there anything that can be done? they were at an impasse before christmas, the republicans and house imploded and it's a tight spot. i suspect if there's a deal,t will be unpalatable for everyone. >> there was a interchange before the talks broke wn. we have the quotes. john boehner said to obama, quote, iut $800 billio i tax revenue on...
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donald, they have no one about, for instance, this fiscal cliff, they have known about it for 18 months. they have done nothing for 18 months. >> they have really known about it for ten years, when you think about it. they have known about it for ten years. but that is the way government is working. >> well, my point is no politician has been tied up in the base men of the capital or white house and said don't do this. they have had plenty of tune. you talk about the big plan. have you seen any appetite for any of these members of congress or the president or anybody else to really have a big plan that actually fixes the problem? >> no, because right now the president doesn't have a big downside but in a month and a half from now he has a huge downside and that comes due with the debt ceiling. and frankly, you know, when you say they have no one about this for a year and a half, they have known about it for ten years because it was always meant to be. this was going to explode and people were going to negotiate something before it explodes. but i think it's highly overrated. it's going
donald, they have no one about, for instance, this fiscal cliff, they have known about it for 18 months. they have done nothing for 18 months. >> they have really known about it for ten years, when you think about it. they have known about it for ten years. but that is the way government is working. >> well, my point is no politician has been tied up in the base men of the capital or white house and said don't do this. they have had plenty of tune. you talk about the big plan. have...
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cliff. it's a cliff that the lawmakers built. they've set the tuesday deadline, they've known it was coming for more it and a year. but until now they've done little to agree on tax increases on tax cuts until that time. people in this building have none what's coming on tuesday yet they're only returning to get back to work just now. senate came back yesterday. house members, well, they won't be back until sunday. this afternoon house on senate leaders met with president obama at the white house. they talked for about an hour. afterwards president obama said he was modestly optimistic. bypassing house speaker john boehner, who has had trouble getting his fellow republicans to agree to anything, the president called on senate majority on minority leads are harry reid on mitch mcconnell to work out a deal on then present it to the house. he also laid out a scaled down mini deal if they are can't manage it. >> if we don't see an agreement between the two leaders in the senate, i expect a bill
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part of the fiscal cliff is that congress has not done the doc- fix, which is indexed the reimbursement rates on medicare. a 27% reduction and general one if it is not reduced. that means any health care provider providing health care to patients on medicare will have to reduce their services. it will be fixed or attractively, if not before. host: that is the health care law, the charts -- "the new york times" talks about what happens immediately in terms of tax increases. they are talking about payments to medicare providers fallen by 27% if nothing is done in the fiscal cliff action going on. --, while i have you, i want your thoughts -- how much of that sentiment are you seeing out there? guest: a see a lot of it. as a grass-roots organization, we hear from people all across the country. we talk about reducing deficits and having a responsible budget for 20 years. this is actually, it will you go over the cliff and nothing changes, the largest single day of the deficit reduction in world history. it is $600 billion in deficit reduction trust by the turn in the calendar. over the long
part of the fiscal cliff is that congress has not done the doc- fix, which is indexed the reimbursement rates on medicare. a 27% reduction and general one if it is not reduced. that means any health care provider providing health care to patients on medicare will have to reduce their services. it will be fixed or attractively, if not before. host: that is the health care law, the charts -- "the new york times" talks about what happens immediately in terms of tax increases. they are...
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cliff which will kick in in about six days if nothing's done. those are the headlines. everyone talking about cutting his vacation short. the question is there anything that can be done? they were at an impasse before christmas, the republicans and house imploded and it's a tight spot. i suspect if there's a deal, it will be unpalatable for everyone. >> there was a interchange before the talks broke down. we have the quotes. john boehner said to obama, quote, i put $800 billion in tax revenue on the table. what do i get for that? allegedly we understand president obama came back to him and said, you get nothing. i get that for free. you get nothing. >> there were a couple eye-opening quotes. a "wall street journal" story before christmas that went through the timeline of how this happened between painer and the president -- boehner and the president. boehner put the rough knee on the table and the president saying that's what i get out of the gate. you get nothing for that, which was a surprise to the speaker. he said if we go over the cliff, th
cliff which will kick in in about six days if nothing's done. those are the headlines. everyone talking about cutting his vacation short. the question is there anything that can be done? they were at an impasse before christmas, the republicans and house imploded and it's a tight spot. i suspect if there's a deal, it will be unpalatable for everyone. >> there was a interchange before the talks broke down. we have the quotes. john boehner said to obama, quote, i put $800 billion in tax...
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doesn't mean they're going to get anything done as far as the fiscal cliff is concerned and because the deadline is so tight, about the most we could hope for may be is some kind of temporary deal. if they don't come up with a pick, the economy may be in for a big jolt. >> we're going to see economic activity slow down. i think we're going to see, with the certainty of tax rates raising on all of us that people contract their economic activity. >> and look, here is why. when you take a look at the impact of these tax hikes, at low income levels, a few hundred dollars. but for people make more than $500,000 a year, an average tax hike of $120,000 unless there is some kind of a fix. and finally, here is one possible solution, i guess. starbucks is telling all of their employees here in the dc area to write on every single coffee they make, come together. that is not just a tall order, but maybe a venty. i think a venty. >> kelly: that's really a good idea. not a good one, doug. >> clayton: thanks. what was your beverage of choice this morning? is that your coffee cup? >> juliet: all right
doesn't mean they're going to get anything done as far as the fiscal cliff is concerned and because the deadline is so tight, about the most we could hope for may be is some kind of temporary deal. if they don't come up with a pick, the economy may be in for a big jolt. >> we're going to see economic activity slow down. i think we're going to see, with the certainty of tax rates raising on all of us that people contract their economic activity. >> and look, here is why. when you...
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senator john mccain told me just a little while ago even if a fiscal cliff deal is done, the battle between the white house and congressional republicans is far from over. >> i think there's going to be a whole new field of battle when the debt ceiling rolls around. >> all right. let's dig a little bit deeper with ryan lizza. he's washington correspondent for the new yorker magazine. also ali velshi our chief correspondent is joining us. deal or no deal? >> looks like from what dana is reporting, that a deal is in sight. republicans are saying they're going to have a vote tonight. looks like a deal is done. >> with the senate. >> we don't know what the house will do. and the last time john boehner tried to put something on the floor, his caucus rebelled. he'd have to let the house vote its will. >> but you agree if the president of the united states supports it, most of the house democrats will support it. so you don't need a majority of the republicans, you need a few republicans to get to that magic number of 218. >> exactly. obama and pelosi seem to have a firm grasp on the house democra
senator john mccain told me just a little while ago even if a fiscal cliff deal is done, the battle between the white house and congressional republicans is far from over. >> i think there's going to be a whole new field of battle when the debt ceiling rolls around. >> all right. let's dig a little bit deeper with ryan lizza. he's washington correspondent for the new yorker magazine. also ali velshi our chief correspondent is joining us. deal or no deal? >> looks like from...
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he feels that a deal on averting this fiscal cliff might get done. here's the president. >> i'm modestly optimistic that an agreement can be achieved. money is going to get 100% of what they want. let's make sure that middle class families and the american economy and, in fact, the world economy aren't adversely impacted because people can't do their jobs. i think you could qualify it. he said optimistic and came back later in that speech and said mod testily optimistic. >> juliet: doesn't that suggest that he is backtracking? >> clayton: don't know what's going to happen at the end of the day. in this meeting as dave was talking about back and forth the ball is in the senate's court right now mitch mcconnell said we will take it we don't want to go back to the house where that was a mess over in the house. we will take it. we will will try. this the president said you try this if you can't get anything done i want a straight up or down vote on those making over $250,000 a year and some of the unemployment benefits for 2 million individuals will stil
he feels that a deal on averting this fiscal cliff might get done. here's the president. >> i'm modestly optimistic that an agreement can be achieved. money is going to get 100% of what they want. let's make sure that middle class families and the american economy and, in fact, the world economy aren't adversely impacted because people can't do their jobs. i think you could qualify it. he said optimistic and came back later in that speech and said mod testily optimistic. >> juliet:...
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. >>> you may have heard of the fiscal cliff described as a self-inflicted wound, a manufactured crisis. that just means it didn't come out of the blue. the bottom line is this. whatever happens we have done it to ourselves. cnn's ali velshi shows us how we got here. >> now we have passed a bold package of tax relief for america's families and businesses. >> it starts more than a decade ago when president bush initiated a series of tax cuts for all americans. but it's a deal with with the devil. the cuts, which are politically expedient but costly to government, expire in ten year's time. >> both houses of congress have passed tax relief that will protect the middle class. >> when it came time for the cuts to expire, the u.s. was emerging from the worst recession since the great depression. so president obama agreed to extend the tax cuts for two more years in exchange for congress extending federal emergency unemployment benefits. those cuts are expensive. if they are extended by 2020, the bush era tax cuts will be responsible for more than half the total national debt. democrats insis
. >>> you may have heard of the fiscal cliff described as a self-inflicted wound, a manufactured crisis. that just means it didn't come out of the blue. the bottom line is this. whatever happens we have done it to ourselves. cnn's ali velshi shows us how we got here. >> now we have passed a bold package of tax relief for america's families and businesses. >> it starts more than a decade ago when president bush initiated a series of tax cuts for all americans. but it's a...
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fiscal cliff hanger, lawmakers scrambling to make a deal to keep sharp tax increases an spending cuts from taking effect in 36 hours. can washington get it done? we'll find out where the president stands as he talks exclusively to nbc news. >>> moments of impact. dramatic new images of the moment when a passenger jet crashed off the runway in russia on to a roadway killing four people. ♪ >>> and, fishy thing, this london fishmonger whose sales pitch has turned him into an internet sensation. the viral video that has millions of people around the world hooked, today, sunday, december 30th, 2012. >>> from nbc news this is "today" with lester holt and erica hill >>> i'm erica hill. >> i'm carl quintanilla. >> all eyes on washington. a number of americans wondering this morning why lawmakers have not yet been able to reach a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. president obama spoke exclusively to nbc's david gregory. we are going to get a preview of what he has to say just ahead. >> it has been just two weeks since the tragedy of sandy hook elementary in connecticut. a teenager in californi
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cliff will get us to do the really hard work that needs to be done. >> adam, in the recesses of your most con spear tospicon-- con spespir conspiretorial mind, people are going to lose jobs if we cut government spending and nobody wants to lose jobs. on the other hand they all know, by them, in washington there has to be cuts and it's easier for them, it's the conspiracy talking. >> what's wrong with going over the cliff. >> such wonders and-- >> the world is not going to end. >>, but you and i have jobs and some people will lose them. >> some of them. >> it will force coping to make the hard choices we need to make. david: hold on a second though. the one, the only thing that could raise revenue significantly is growth. i think everybody, republicans and democrats, one thing they agree on is that growth. that could increase revenue by hundreds of billions, not just tens of billions, and if everybody gets a tax increase, shibani, will likely go into recession in any we'll have negative growth and that will mean even worse of a deficit. >> if you start to cut spending you're going to
cliff will get us to do the really hard work that needs to be done. >> adam, in the recesses of your most con spear tospicon-- con spespir conspiretorial mind, people are going to lose jobs if we cut government spending and nobody wants to lose jobs. on the other hand they all know, by them, in washington there has to be cuts and it's easier for them, it's the conspiracy talking. >> what's wrong with going over the cliff. >> such wonders and-- >> the world is not going...
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cliff. 48% of those polled say a deal is not likely. that optimism is waning, though when the poll was done earlier this month, 59% said a deal was likely. >>> former braves great andruw jones is free on a $2,500 bond this morning after being arrested outside of atlanta. he was arrested on a battery charge. the gwinnett county detention center said there was a domestic dispute between he and his life. >>> the number of extremely obese preschoolers has dropped slightly over the last decade, according to the centerses for disease control and prevention. researchers called the decline modest but say it's encouraging. the cdc adds that part of the decrease could be attributed to awareness campaigns that encourage physical activity and healthy eating. >>> before heading back to d.c. to try to avoid heading off the fiscal cliff, president obama and the first lady kept up a christmas tradition. they visited marines at a base in hawaii thanking them for their service. mrs. obama and their daughters, by the way, won't cut short their vacation. t
cliff. 48% of those polled say a deal is not likely. that optimism is waning, though when the poll was done earlier this month, 59% said a deal was likely. >>> former braves great andruw jones is free on a $2,500 bond this morning after being arrested outside of atlanta. he was arrested on a battery charge. the gwinnett county detention center said there was a domestic dispute between he and his life. >>> the number of extremely obese preschoolers has dropped slightly over the...
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cliff, to have a sunset when it comes to our fiscal situation is that really what's going on here? lawmakers are on vacation, so will anything get done in time? >>> lots of people on vacation, dana. a winter storm may be headed your way. for all of the people traveling, 93 million americans on trains, planes, and automobiles. what it means for your holiday travel plans. good morning, welcome to "starting point." chilly in new york city. 7:00 in the morning. i'm alina cho in new york. >> and i'm dana bash in washington. monday, december 24th. christmas eve. "starting point" begins right now. >> and our "starting point," a u.s. contractor in kabul gunned down and killed this morning by a woman wearing an afghan police uniform. it happened inside kabul's police headquarters. the latest in a string of suspected green on blue attacks that are hitting morale and eroding trust in allies there. our pentagon correspond respondent barbara starr up early for us working her sources. joins us live from washington with more. >> good morning, alina. in the last few minutes, our nato sources are c
cliff, to have a sunset when it comes to our fiscal situation is that really what's going on here? lawmakers are on vacation, so will anything get done in time? >>> lots of people on vacation, dana. a winter storm may be headed your way. for all of the people traveling, 93 million americans on trains, planes, and automobiles. what it means for your holiday travel plans. good morning, welcome to "starting point." chilly in new york city. 7:00 in the morning. i'm alina cho in...
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and is the president going to get any work done? tell us a little bit about the fiscal cliff here. we know the senate is going to come back on thursday. do we expect the presidt to come back to washington and deal with trying to avoid these tax increases and the spending cuts? >> it really does sound like he'll be coming back, suzanne. it is not official. the white house hasn't put out a schedule update. it seems to be more a matter of when he is coming back rather than if. the senate will reconvene thursday. all eyes there as senate majority leader harry reid tries to cobble together something that can get some republican support. we'll be waiting to see exactly when president obama is coming back but we understand that the senate even though it reconvenes on thursday may not, senate democrats may not roll out a bill until closer to the new year. also get some republican support and put pressure on the house to take it up. >> we'll be following that very closely. have a wonderful christmas and of course we'll talk with you a little bit later. if there are any developments on the f
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it really has nothing to too with the fiscal cliff. i'm looking now to congress and say, pass the amt patch today. >> gretchen: all right. we'll see if they're listening to marty, a cpa who is a little nutsoutrig to get everything done before year's end. >> thank you very much. >> gretchen: georgetown cup cakes secret ingredient this new year, champagne? we're showing you how it make the party even sweeter with sophie. yep, she's just one part of the team with our others and she's here hey! did you know that honey nut cheerios has oats that can help lower cholesterol? and it tastes good? sure does! wow. it's the honey, it makes it taste so... well, would you look at the time... what's the rush? be happy. be healthy. >> gretchen: welcome back. wicked weather like this wreaking havoc on airports across the country. what can travelers expect? wfxt's katherine is live at logan international airport with the latest op the travel nightmare out of boston. good morning. >> good morning, gretchen. the sun is shining on us here in boston. but fl
it really has nothing to too with the fiscal cliff. i'm looking now to congress and say, pass the amt patch today. >> gretchen: all right. we'll see if they're listening to marty, a cpa who is a little nutsoutrig to get everything done before year's end. >> thank you very much. >> gretchen: georgetown cup cakes secret ingredient this new year, champagne? we're showing you how it make the party even sweeter with sophie. yep, she's just one part of the team with our others and...
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you know, the administration -- the republicans -- what we seed with a fiscal cliff and what we saw in our series is the ability to create consense politically is hurting us tremendously, economically. the earlier guest was talking about how these are self-inflected problems, and that's what's happening. tax rates will go up across the board. the condition does look like it will slip back, and it's a global change in the economy. again people with skills competing globally and doing very very well at the top. we're not addressing fundamental changes in the economy. we're using these old political paradimes and we're stuck. our data sort of showed this. old ideas sort of improve, and -- we've got to think outside of the box. >> thank you, david rohde, for your perspective today. >> thank you. >>> the weather is being blamed for 12 deaths after dumping record snow in arkansas. the heaviest snowfall is expected in northern pennsylvania, upstate new york and new england. thousands of travelers have already been stranded at and i want across the country. >>> time for the your bess entrepren
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what speaker boehner has done is create a situation in which we are going to go over the fiscal cliff. but the people who want higher taxes, the democrats they will not be ready for it. it was john boehner that walked away the negotiations to try plan-b and then it was mr. boehner who failed to pass the plan. and then it was mr. boehner who said it was somebody else's problem. what he has done is a debacle for the republicans. the white house has been sitting back and letting it happen. you can call it deal and jam. >> i am optimistic that we can reach an greept that can pass both houses in time. senators reed and mcconnell are working on such an agreement as we speak. but, if an agreement is not reached in time, between reed and mcconnell, i will urge senator reed to bring to the floor a basic package for an up or down vote, one that protects the middle class from an income tax hike and extends the vital life line of unemployment insurance for two million americans looking for a job and lays the groundwork for more cooperation on deficit reduction and economic growth. guys, i can hea
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cliff. now president obama is calling on the house to pass the bill without delay. the bill stops most of the tax hikes and spending cuts that were to kick in at midnight. tara mergener is in washington with more this morning. tara, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, terrell. well, a deal is now on the books to avert some of the impact of the fiscal cliff which technically we have gone over. now it is up to the house. in the early morning hours of new year's day, the senate began voting on a bill to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. >> the bill as amended is passed. >> reporter: the senate voted 89-8 to avoid tax hikes for 99% of all americans. >> this shouldn't be the model for how we do things around here. but i think we can say we've done some good for the country. >> r if the bill eventually becomes law, the bush era tax cuts will be permanently extended for everyone making less than $400,000 a year. and families making less than $450,000 a year. it will also keep the altern
cliff. now president obama is calling on the house to pass the bill without delay. the bill stops most of the tax hikes and spending cuts that were to kick in at midnight. tara mergener is in washington with more this morning. tara, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, terrell. well, a deal is now on the books to avert some of the impact of the fiscal cliff which technically we have gone over. now it is up to the house. in the early morning hours of new year's day, the senate...
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what speaker boehner's done is create a situation in which we're going to go over the fiscal cliff. but the people who want higher taxes, the democrats, they're not going to be blamed for it. after all, it was john boehner who walked away from negotiations to try plan "b" last week. then it was john boehner who planned to pass plan "b" that very same week. then it was mr. boehner who said it was up to the senate, someone else's problem. just from a pr perspective, what john boehner has done here is a debacle for the republicans. and the white house, they've just been sitting back the last week or so and letting it happen. but today, they gave us their plan going forward. you could call it deal and jam. >> i'm optimistic we may still be able to reach an agreement that could pass both houses in time. senators reid and mcconnell are working on such an agreement as we speak. but if an agreement isn't reached in time, between senator reid and senator mcconnell, than i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor a basic package for an up or down vote, one that protects the middle class f
what speaker boehner's done is create a situation in which we're going to go over the fiscal cliff. but the people who want higher taxes, the democrats, they're not going to be blamed for it. after all, it was john boehner who walked away from negotiations to try plan "b" last week. then it was john boehner who planned to pass plan "b" that very same week. then it was mr. boehner who said it was up to the senate, someone else's problem. just from a pr perspective, what john...